Tape trick is smart, might steal that.

Been there, done that. A left-hand drill bit and some heat usually works for me, but sometimes you just have to drill it out slow and steady.

That 1992 ladder safety VHS they made us watch every quarter was so boring I memorized the narrator's cough. But after hearing a similar story from an old timer who watched a guy slip, I get it now. They make the talks mind numbing on purpose so the one scary thing that actually gets through sticks for life. It's like a weird psychological trick wrapped in bad corporate training. What was the most boring safety talk you ever sat through that probably saved your skin later?

Isn't that just messy, not part of growing up?

Okay but @ryanpatel, plants do grow but people get attached. It's not just about the cut, it's about caring for something. Maybe it is a little serious to them, you know?